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by Dave Keenan
Mon Sep 14, 2015 11:43 pm
Forum: Pronunciation of symbols (Sagispeak)
Topic: "Sagispeak"
Replies: 58
Views: 34039

Re: "Sagispeak"

But thinking about those phonemes, ph, sh, kh, and even th (for 49:48, 96:49, etc), their pronunciation will differ across languages, as you've said. That's cool. But some languages don't have defined pronunciations for these special combinations, and so they might have to share pronunciations with...
by Dave Keenan
Mon Sep 14, 2015 3:54 pm
Forum: Pronunciation of symbols (Sagispeak)
Topic: "Sagispeak"
Replies: 58
Views: 34039

Re: "Sagispeak"

Please keep in mind that the new prefixes or suffixes don't necessarily translate easily to other languages, especially those such as mine (Finnish) ... So we'll have to come up with our own nomenclature, anyway, and the closer it can be to your English version, the better. Thanks Juhani. The best ...
by Dave Keenan
Mon Sep 14, 2015 3:17 pm
Forum: Pronunciation of symbols (Sagispeak)
Topic: "Sagispeak"
Replies: 58
Views: 34039

Re: "Sagispeak"

We had a bug where the double backslash in ":\\!:", which was the obvious smiley code for :\ \!:, was interpreted correctly on Preview but interpreted as a single backslash on Submit, and therefore gave :\!: instead. And the colon slash slash in "://|:", which was the obvious smi...
by Dave Keenan
Mon Sep 14, 2015 1:20 pm
Forum: Pronunciation of symbols (Sagispeak)
Topic: "Sagispeak"
Replies: 58
Views: 34039

Re: "Sagispeak"

Are the sounds listed the same as in IPA? Or is "j" here actually the IPA phoneme /dʒ/, as in "judge"? We are hoping to have fixed spelling across all languages that use latin/roman characters, and in order to do so we are happy to allow different pronunciations, with "j&qu...
by Dave Keenan
Mon Sep 14, 2015 10:57 am
Forum: Plain Text (ASCII) representations
Topic: Representing Sagittal in plain text
Replies: 1
Views: 3403

Representing Sagittal in plain text

In the Facebook 22-Tone Workgroup at https://www.facebook.com/groups/370122423186931/419061598293013/ Juhani I thought u said we don't need both symbols. I wanted to use ^ v ^# vb b and #, mixed sagittal. I have no concern anymore for universality. I'm mostly concerned with 22 edo so we dont need ^ ...
by Dave Keenan
Tue Sep 08, 2015 3:13 am
Forum: Pronunciation of symbols (Sagispeak)
Topic: "Sagispeak"
Replies: 58
Views: 34039

Re: "Sagispeak"

We can now embed real sagittal symbols in posts, by clicking on them in a palette in the editor, as you can see below. I don't know about you, but I think this is awesome! :D C:#::\!: E:b::/|: F:/|\: B:!): [Edit: No need for the Sagittal "smilies" to be preceded by whitespace any more. The...
by Dave Keenan
Mon Sep 07, 2015 10:02 pm
Forum: Pronunciation of symbols (Sagispeak)
Topic: "Sagispeak"
Replies: 58
Views: 34039

Re: "Sagispeak"

In the 22-Tone Workgroup on facebook, Dave, does that mean the 64:63 accidentals will likely be tai and tao, and the 33:32 ones vai and vao? Sorry I just can't wait. Yes! I've just received a long-awaited email from George Secor confirming this. But vai/vao is not the only pronunciation for the full...
by Dave Keenan
Sun Sep 06, 2015 11:41 am
Forum: Pronunciation of symbols (Sagispeak)
Topic: "Sagispeak"
Replies: 58
Views: 34039

Re: "Sagispeak"

Thanks for raising the issue of language independence. We certainly intend for the pronunciations to be language-independent and appreciate any help you can give us in ensuring that. We believe we have chosen phonemes which are common to most languages. In my post above I only described the usage fo...
by Dave Keenan
Thu Sep 03, 2015 9:03 pm
Forum: Pronunciation of symbols (Sagispeak)
Topic: "Sagispeak"
Replies: 58
Views: 34039

"Sagispeak"

[Skip straight to the final Sagispeak table , which also shows the updated short-ASCII.] I thought that the drawbacks of a tuning-independent way of pronouncing the accidentals would outweigh the benefits, until George showed me the beautifully simple system he'd come up with. In George's pronunciat...
by Dave Keenan
Tue Sep 01, 2015 2:59 pm
Forum: Sagittal events, announcements and history
Topic: Welcome to the Sagittal forum
Replies: 1
Views: 4092

Welcome to the Sagittal forum

Welcome to the new Sagittal forum. Feel free to make a new topic to ask a question, make a suggestion, or tell us what you've been doing with Sagittal. Some recent changes to the Sagittal website are: 1. Updated the main "Sagittal.pdf" (Xenharmonikon) article to: (a) fill in some gaps to g...