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by cmloegcmluin
Mon Mar 30, 2020 5:28 am
Forum: Just Intonation notations
Topic: Prime-factor Sagittal JI notation (one symbol per prime)
Replies: 51
Views: 59236

Re: Prime-factor Sagittal JI notation (one symbol per prime)

In case this is handy, here are the primes thus far addressed, with their size in cents, and then the order they should appear in if based on this size. 5 -21.506 10 7 -27.264 9 11 53.273 4 13 -64.915 1 17 14.730 13 19 3.378 16 23 16.544 12 29 33.148 7 31 -54.528 3 37 46.394 5 41 21.084 11 43 13.795...
by cmloegcmluin
Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:33 am
Forum: Just Intonation notations
Topic: Prime-factor Sagittal JI notation (one symbol per prime)
Replies: 51
Views: 59236

Re: Prime-factor Sagittal JI notation (one symbol per prime)

In the few examples I give above, I seem to be assuming greater-alteration-closer-to-the-notehead, the same as for the mono-sagittal JI notations. Ah, so you are! I should have noticed that. Is this another user-settable parameter for the calculator, like the choice of 17-comma versus 17-kleisma? G...
by cmloegcmluin
Mon Mar 30, 2020 2:10 am
Forum: Pronunciation of symbols (Sagispeak)
Topic: "Sagispeak"
Replies: 69
Views: 87480

Re: "Sagispeak"

“Mimi” works for me. Let’s go with that. Really I only proposed the versions with “a” and “h” because I thought they’d be more likely to be what y’all wanted, not because I preferred them.
by cmloegcmluin
Sun Mar 29, 2020 9:28 am
Forum: Just Intonation notations
Topic: Prime-factor Sagittal JI notation (one symbol per prime)
Replies: 51
Views: 59236

Re: Prime-factor Sagittal JI notation (one symbol per prime)

Ooh, here's another fun question that has arisen in the course of putting what I've learned on this thread into practice: What should we do for Plain Text Longform when using Prime Factor Sagittal? I don't think it's a good idea to simply concatenate the symbols, even though ambiguity doesn't look l...
by cmloegcmluin
Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:43 am
Forum: Just Intonation notations
Topic: Prime-factor Sagittal JI notation (one symbol per prime)
Replies: 51
Views: 59236

Re: Prime-factor Sagittal JI notation (one symbol per prime)

Quick question re: style: JI Notation prescribes that the visual elements representing alterations should be sorted from right to left, largest to smallest. However, the same principle would not be as effective for Prime Factor Notation. The natural thing to do seems rather to be to sort by the size...
by cmloegcmluin
Sun Mar 29, 2020 6:27 am
Forum: Just Intonation notations
Topic: JI Notation Spreadsheet
Replies: 17
Views: 27272

Re: JI Notation Spreadsheet

Please let me know if anyone thinks it would be valuable for me — in addition to building an online web calculator for Sagittal — to update the existing spreadsheet with the following: update the Plain Text Longform it generates per recent developments re: the new Olympian diacritics removing George...
by cmloegcmluin
Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:33 am
Forum: Pronunciation of symbols (Sagispeak)
Topic: "Sagispeak"
Replies: 69
Views: 87480

Re: "Sagispeak"

Sweet, I'm glad you like it! Why not just momo and mimi for double minas and momomo and mimimi for triple minas? Actually I did first consider "momo", "mimi", "momomo", and "mimimi", but I thought that the use of the "a"s and the "h"s had a...
by cmloegcmluin
Sat Mar 28, 2020 1:08 pm
Forum: Just Intonation notations
Topic: Prime-factor Sagittal JI notation (one symbol per prime)
Replies: 51
Views: 59236

Re: Prime-factor Sagittal JI notation (one symbol per prime)

I suggest giving the full monzo, but bolding the 3-exponent, and eliding strings of more than 3 zeros. i.e. every prime after 13 looks like [ n m ... 1 >. Something like this then: 5 80/81 [ 4 -4 1 0 0 > 7 63/64 [ -6 2 0 1 0 > 11 33/32 [ -5 1 0 0 1 > 13 26/27 [ 1 -3 ... 1 > 17 4131/4096 [ -12 5 ......
by cmloegcmluin
Sat Mar 28, 2020 12:58 pm
Forum: Pronunciation of symbols (Sagispeak)
Topic: "Sagispeak"
Replies: 69
Views: 87480

Re: "Sagispeak"

I wonder if we should instead consider giving the the schisma diacritics a consonant (e.g. m or b) and no consonant for the minas Aw, man! If reexamining the schisma and schisminas is on the table, we can have some fun... or claw back a consonant from the many allowed for "j" (as you poin...
by cmloegcmluin
Sat Mar 28, 2020 2:31 am
Forum: Just Intonation notations
Topic: Prime-factor Sagittal JI notation (one symbol per prime)
Replies: 51
Views: 59236

Re: Prime-factor Sagittal JI notation (one symbol per prime)

No. If you're willing to choose any of C G D A E to notate your 1/1, there's no reason to go outside of the range 400 Hz to 480 Hz for 1/1. That's ±10%. That's because the largest step between those nominals is a Pythagorean minor third (A:C or E:G), which is 27:32 = 1.185, and 480/400 = 1.2. You s...