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by Dave Keenan
Thu Apr 08, 2021 10:25 am
Forum: Just Intonation notations
Topic: Simplified "Stoic" Sagittal for 13-limit tonality diamond use
Replies: 13
Views: 253

Re: Simplified "Stoic" Sagittal for 13-limit tonality diamond use

Those are great, Nicholas! Your 6 ppss bitmaps prove that 3 dent and 1 dent can be made sufficiently distinct on a staff space, but they violate a kind of rule (based on my own observation), that I should have spelled out earlier. It's about two black pixels that meet diagonally (only at a corner), ...
by Dave Keenan
Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:04 pm
Forum: Just Intonation notations
Topic: Simplified "Stoic" Sagittal for 13-limit tonality diamond use
Replies: 13
Views: 253

Re: Simplified "Stoic" Sagittal for 13-limit tonality diamond use

Dave, these are brilliant! So readable, and neat-looking; I am definitely happy with this as a base design. I am seeing quite clearly what you said before about the limitations of my initial design. Thanks. But I worry that, when they are on a space, the 3-dent symbol is not very different from the...
by Dave Keenan
Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:22 pm
Forum: Just Intonation notations
Topic: Simplified "Stoic" Sagittal for 13-limit tonality diamond use
Replies: 13
Views: 253

Re: Simplified "Stoic" Sagittal for 13-limit tonality diamond use

Yes, it's quite a punishing discipline, forcing yourself to make them distinct on a 6-ppss black & white bitmap. It's a way of simulating poor reading conditions. Here's my attempt: https://forum.sagittal.org/download/file.php?mode=view&id=354 The scrolls aren't really scrolls any more. They...
by Dave Keenan
Fri Apr 02, 2021 7:31 am
Forum: Just Intonation notations
Topic: Simplified "Stoic" Sagittal for 13-limit tonality diamond use
Replies: 13
Views: 253

Re: Simplified "Stoic" Sagittal for 13-limit tonality diamond use

Hi Nicholas. That's definitely an improvement. But I think we can do better. I'm in the middle of repainting my kitchen ceiling today, or I would have tried my hand at the bitmaps. :) Some areas are a bit too busy when combined with the staff lines. I think the double and triple scrolls need to be s...
by Dave Keenan
Fri Apr 02, 2021 6:27 am
Forum: Notations for other tunings
Topic: Yer: a Sagittal study
Replies: 20
Views: 1965

Re: Yer: a Sagittal study

I think it's whenever the closest 12edo pitch differs from the one notated, when you ignore all but the conventional accidentals. That's certainly an option. But it seems a little silly to do that for D#-49 when you could just write 51. I'd probaby let the offset go to 59 or 60 before doing that. An...
by Dave Keenan
Thu Apr 01, 2021 9:59 am
Forum: Just Intonation notations
Topic: Simplified "Stoic" Sagittal for 13-limit tonality diamond use
Replies: 13
Views: 253

Re: Simplified "Stoic" Sagittal for 13-limit tonality diamond use

Here's an earlier attempt, from August 2003. You can see a version of your 5 dent symbol, in a column just to the left of centre. And some horrible round-shouldered arcs. We were limiting ourselves to a maximum of 2 flags per symbol at this stage. Later relaxed to 3. https://forum.sagittal.org/downl...
by Dave Keenan
Thu Apr 01, 2021 9:44 am
Forum: Just Intonation notations
Topic: Simplified "Stoic" Sagittal for 13-limit tonality diamond use
Replies: 13
Views: 253

Re: Simplified "Stoic" Sagittal for 13-limit tonality diamond use

I note that you can make your image attachment display in your post by right-clicking its filename and choosing Copy link location, then pasting it and surrounding it with ... tags, which can be done by selecting it and clicking the image button (sun and mountains icon). I think it is fine to modify...
by Dave Keenan
Thu Apr 01, 2021 8:23 am
Forum: Notations for other tunings
Topic: Yer: a Sagittal study
Replies: 20
Views: 1965

Re: Yer: a Sagittal study

cmloegcmluin wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 3:55 am Maybe it's best to just produce two different scores though: one Revo one for 31337 h4x0rz and one Evo+cents one for n00bs.
Yes. That was my assumption.
by Dave Keenan
Wed Mar 31, 2021 3:45 pm
Forum: Notations for other tunings
Topic: Yer: a Sagittal study
Replies: 20
Views: 1965

Re: Yer: a Sagittal study

But I only thought that way before you clarified that performers should be expected to parse the sharp or flat part out of the Revo symbol, even if it is larger than the Revo symbol, e.g. :||\: equals :\!::#: so its accompanying cents value would actually be around negative 20¢, not positive 90¢. A...
by Dave Keenan
Wed Mar 31, 2021 2:58 pm
Forum: Just Intonation notations
Topic: Simplified "Stoic" Sagittal for 13-limit tonality diamond use
Replies: 13
Views: 253

Re: Simplified "Stoic" Sagittal for 13-limit tonality diamond use

Hi Nicholas. Welcome to the Sagittal forum. Thanks for posting. This is fascinating stuff. I took the liberty of making your image an attachment so it could be displayed directly. I suspect you found that the forum wouldn't let you attach any files or display any images in your first post. But you s...