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13-limit JI

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Re: 13-limit JI

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Re: 13-limit JI

Postby Juhani » Fri Dec 18, 2015 10:49 pm

I was in contact with Steinberg. They will not implement cumulative accidentals. And the microtonal playback will only work for EDOs.

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Re: 13-limit JI

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Re: 13-limit JI

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Re: 13-limit JI

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Re: 13-limit JI

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Re: 13-limit JI

Postby Juhani » Tue Sep 13, 2016 7:33 am

Hi,
that's more or less the same answer I got from Mr. Spreadbury last December - after which I lamented here on the Sagittal forum that combining accidentals will not be possible in Dorico (as the Steinberg software is called). While it's true that we won't need a separate symbol for each combination in the font itself, we'll still need to build a potentially ever-growing palette of such symbols inside Dorico. What we want, however, is the possibility to add individual accidental symbols to an existing note on the page: to first input, say, :#:, and then add :/|\: , instead of having to have :#: :/|\: in the palette.

Moreover, Dorico will only support EDOs, so JI will have to be handled as a large EDO. They probably haven't solved microtonal playback at all in the first version that comes out this year.

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Re: 13-limit JI

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Re: 13-limit JI

Postby Juhani » Tue Sep 13, 2016 4:39 pm

But you are now talking about a notation system for 224edo, aren't you? Of course such a system, and indeed a much smaller one, is fine for playback. Some EDO will be used in a playback engine, anyway - 1200EDO is common in hardware synths.
But by JI notations I always refer to a one-symbol-per-prime system such as Multi-Sagittal and Sabat-v.Schweinitz, with 3-limit nominals, as well as Johnston's system.
Can you explain how the library of combined symbols will not quickly grow when using such a system? The coverage of the 15-limit diamond is minuscule.

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