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by Dave Keenan
Mon Sep 21, 2015 9:46 pm
Forum: Interval and Chord names
Topic: My general approach to notation: pitch, intervals, chords
Replies: 12
Views: 6734

Re: My general approach to notation: pitch, intervals, chords

Perhaps I didn't fully get that comment. But what does "ordinary major third" mean here? Surely not 81:64, which it would usually in Sagittal... Correct. There's nothing acoustically salient about 64:81. I did mean 4:5. If it means 5:4, then that's a "pao (major) third" by default (using Sagittal's...
by Dave Keenan
Mon Sep 21, 2015 8:59 pm
Forum: Pronunciation of symbols (Sagispeak)
Topic: "Sagispeak"
Replies: 45
Views: 27742

Re: "Sagispeak"

Dave, Wow, there's quite a lot to get my head around. That's always a problem when presenting anything that covers the whole Sagittal system. The initial impression is one of complexity. George and I call it "the freakout factor". In reality most people will never need to go beyond the Spartan set ...
by Dave Keenan
Sun Sep 20, 2015 8:28 pm
Forum: Equal Division notations
Topic: Limma fraction and apotome fraction accidentals
Replies: 15
Views: 7474

Limma fraction and apotome fraction accidentals

On the facebook "22-Tone workgroup", Cryptic Ruse mentioned that he was working on a non-JI-based general notation system for EDOs 72 and below, based on accidentals for fractions of the Pythagorean apotome (7 fifths, octave-reduced) and Pythagorean limma (5 fourths, octave-reduced), and asked what ...
by Dave Keenan
Sun Sep 20, 2015 1:37 am
Forum: Interval and Chord names
Topic: My general approach to notation: pitch, intervals, chords
Replies: 12
Views: 6734

Re: My general approach to notation: pitch, intervals, chords

I suspect I just proved my point. I don't think you understood what I meant when I wrote: (for e.g. 22edo): That pao-major third sounds like an ordinary major third, and that major third sounds like a super-major third. With your system, to make my meaning clear, I'm forced to use something longwind...
by Dave Keenan
Sun Sep 20, 2015 1:22 am
Forum: Pronunciation of symbols (Sagispeak)
Topic: "Sagispeak"
Replies: 45
Views: 27742

Re: "Sagispeak"

Is there any way to put all the smilies on one page, so we can see them along with pronunciation all without hitting pop-up boxes? Maybe this web format makes things difficult, but that sure would be nice. We're preparing a post for this thread that will do that, and will also give the upward ASCII...
by Dave Keenan
Sat Sep 19, 2015 10:39 pm
Forum: Interval and Chord names
Topic: My general approach to notation: pitch, intervals, chords
Replies: 12
Views: 6734

Re: My general approach to notation: pitch, intervals, chords

The problem I have with it is that I am still going to want to say things like (for e.g. 22edo): That pao-major third sounds like an ordinary major third, and that major third sounds like a super-major third. To disambiguate, we're going to have to use terms like "notational major" versus "acoustic ...
by Dave Keenan
Sat Sep 19, 2015 1:55 am
Forum: Interval and Chord names
Topic: My general approach to notation: pitch, intervals, chords
Replies: 12
Views: 6734

Re: My general approach to notation: pitch, intervals, chords

Hi Cam. Thanks for your post, and thanks for the kind words. I have added all the Sagittals required by your post now, and many more. And I have edited your post so it was re-rendered and now shows them. All single shaft symbols are available now, and the diacritics (accents). But of the multi-shaft...
by Dave Keenan
Fri Sep 18, 2015 4:50 pm
Forum: Interval and Chord names
Topic: 22edo interval names
Replies: 7
Views: 4084

Re: 22edo interval names

For some other ideas on microtonal interval naming, see Kite Giedraitis' colour notation here: http://xenharmonic.wikispaces.com/Kite's+color+notation and in part II of his book, Alternative Tunings: Theory, Notation and Practice, including the alt-tuner manual , here: http://www.tallkite.com/Altern...
by Dave Keenan
Fri Sep 18, 2015 12:18 am
Forum: Interval and Chord names
Topic: 22edo interval names
Replies: 7
Views: 4084

22edo interval names

Here is a way of having our cake and eating it too. By which I mean that, for different purposes we can name intervals (a) according to the notation of the pitches (in a chain-of-best-fifths notation), or (b) according to the sound of the interval or dyad (in isolation), and the two names do not con...
by Dave Keenan
Mon Sep 14, 2015 11:43 pm
Forum: Pronunciation of symbols (Sagispeak)
Topic: "Sagispeak"
Replies: 45
Views: 27742

Re: "Sagispeak"

But thinking about those phonemes, ph, sh, kh, and even th (for 49:48, 96:49, etc), their pronunciation will differ across languages, as you've said. That's cool. But some languages don't have defined pronunciations for these special combinations, and so they might have to share pronunciations with...